Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[Shen: King of Digimon]

You said the nadeshiko are prostitutes. I guess you want to make this rp 18+

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Regardless. It’s my job to make sure everything is balanced. Some skills are denied. And that’s okay.

 

[Retro Master]

Okay we need an actual vote. I suggest Kyuu and Shen state a summary of their points in one post. Then we’ll have everyone make a vote. A reason why you voted for what would be preferable unless we want to keep the votes anonymous for some reason.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Okay we need an actual vote. I suggest Kyuu and Shen state a summary of their points in one post. Then we’ll have everyone make a vote. A reason why you voted for what would be preferable unless we want to keep the votes anonymous for some reason.

What if, theoretically, everyone voted except Kyuu, that a meteor would fall that would destroy the entirety of Nadeshiko overnight for no reason at all? Would it be fair to Kyuu? Would it even make sense?

 

[SageNeb]

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Regardless. It’s my job to make sure everything is balanced. Some skills are denied. And that’s okay.

I just used that same logic as you did. Take one statement to make a person seem completely useless to listen to

 

[kyuukestu]

He was? He was going against 5 kage lmao who decided that. With biju level chakra plus water jet variant of body flicker i could’ve done that 20km in less than a minute

If you made it exactly one-minute Yukimaru would be doing 1200 kph, which still isn't sound speed. It's actually just a bit short of sound speed.

 

[SageNeb]

What if, theoretically, everyone voted except Kyuu, that a meteor would fall that would destroy the entirety of Nadeshiko overnight for no reason at all? Would it be fair to Kyuu?

Is that the same scale of a vote as this jutsu for you?

 

[Retro Master]

What if, theoretically, everyone voted except Kyuu, that a meteor would fall that would destroy the entirety of Nadeshiko overnight for no reason at all? Would it be fair to Kyuu? Would it even make sense?

That is the most extreme reason you can think of. Sorry but that is not a good point and does not fit the situation at all.

 

[SageNeb]

That is the most extreme reason you can think of. Sorry but that is not a good point and does not fit the situation at all.

Yea if that’s a reason for no voting I’m worried about you shen

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Is that the same scale of a vote as this jutsu for you?

I’m using an extreme example. Obviously. I’m thinking about the actual health of this Rp. And even though some may not see it yet, it could be extremely destructive, and leads to a gateway to many other possible abuses. And if it’s not patched up it could lead to just that.

 

[SageNeb]

If you made it exactly one-minute Yukimaru would be doing 1200 kph, which still isn't sound speed. It's actually just a bit short of sound speed.

Cool

 

[SageNeb]

I’m using an extreme example. Obviously. I’m thinking about the actual health of this Rp. And even though some may not see it yet, it could be extremely destructive, and leads to a gateway to many other possible abuses. And if it’s not patched up it could lead to just that.

What if you just want to nerf everyone to genin and take away all kekkei genkai for the sake of “balance.” That’s more likely than everyone voting for a meteor to drop on the nadeshiko (even tho they’re not all grouped up anyways)

 

[Retro Master]

I’m using an extreme example. Obviously. I’m thinking about the actual health of this Rp. And even though some may not see it yet, it could be extremely destructive, and leads to a gateway to many other possible abuses. And if it’s not patched up it could lead to just that.

Which is fair. You can put that as one of your reasons as to why we should vote for this point.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

That is the most extreme reason you can think of. Sorry but that is not a good point and does not fit the situation at all.

Sometimes actions are taken outside of voting. That’s been a thing. What’s happening is that your not seeing what I’m saying. I’m trying to prevent something harmful. And if the vote passed, it could potential keep being harmful.

 

[SageNeb]

Sometimes actions are taken outside of voting. That’s been a thing. What’s happening is that your not seeing what I’m saying. I’m trying to prevent something harmful. And if the vote passed, it could potential keep being harmful.

So all emission chakra stuff from kyuu should be weak?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Which is fair. You can put that as one of your reasons as to why we should vote for this point.

But that’s just it. If it does pass then it could still be harmful, and I think I’d have to intervein. And that wouldn’t be fair, to do a vote just to supersede it. That’s why if something is very clearly harmful to balance, it should be denied, and allowed discussion for a more balanced way of doing the same job as the denied ability. No?

 

[Retro Master]

Sometimes actions are taken outside of voting. That’s been a thing. What’s happening is that your not seeing what I’m saying. I’m trying to prevent something harmful. And if the vote passed, it could potential keep being harmful.

That is understandable and we know you’re trying to look out for the well being of the RP. However, it could also help to trust in the rest of your RPers. Even if it does for some reason turn out bad, just as we came together to vote for it, we can also vote to change it.

 

[SageNeb]

But that’s just it. If it does pass then it could still be harmful, and I think I’d have to intervein. And that wouldn’t be fair, to do a vote just to supersede it. That’s why if something is very clearly harmful to balance, it should be denied, and allowed discussion for a more balanced way of doing the same job as the denied ability. No?

? What’s just it? Retro saying you should put that as a reason to vote for you?

 

[Retro Master]

But that’s just it. If it does pass then it could still be harmful, and I think I’d have to intervein. And that wouldn’t be fair, to do a vote just to supersede it. That’s why if something is very clearly harmful to balance, it should be denied, and allowed discussion for a more balanced way of doing the same job as the denied ability. No?

The thing about that is it seems that it’s only very clearly harmful to balance to you. If other people agree with you, then that’s what the vote is for.

 

[kyuukestu]

Lmao, does anyone remember when Shen was defending Hama moving twelve two-story buildings at beyond the speed of sound? Cause I certainly do.

So its perfectly okay when your characters move literal buildings at that speed casually with one Jutsu, but its game-breaking for anyone else?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

That is understandable and we know you’re trying to look out for the well being of the RP. However, it could also help to trust in the rest of your RPers. Even if it does for some reason turn out bad, just as we came together to vote for it, we can also vote to change it.

I do trust you guys. I wouldn’t be in the long haul with you guys if I didn’t. But we all have shortcomings, and not all of our ideas are great. Take the 20km jump. This one is just like it. And I had to come in and make a call for that one too.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Lmao, does anyone remember when Shen was defending Hama moving twelve two-story buildings at beyond the speed of sound? Cause I certainly do.

Speed of...sound?

And revolving. Not movement speed.

Also, red herring again.

 

[SageNeb]

I do trust you guys. I wouldn’t be in the long haul with you guys if I didn’t. But we all have shortcomings, and not all of our ideas are great. Take the 20km jump. This one is just like it. And I had to come in and make a call for that one too.

You should just kick us out of the rp if you don’t trust us to make good decisions for it

 

[kyuukestu]

Hence my end-game.

As much as you tout balance I don't think you care because your own characters break that balance all the time and it's perfectly fine.

 

[Retro Master]

Lmao, does anyone remember when Shen was defending Hama moving twelve two-story buildings at beyond the speed of sound? Cause I certainly do.

So its perfectly okay when your characters move literal buildings at that speed casually with one Jutsu, but its game-breaking for anyone else?

That is not helping and is unnecessary. Yes there may be issues with that but it’s also immature to start throwing stuff back at this stage.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

The thing about that is it seems that it’s only very clearly harmful to balance to you. If other people agree with you, then that’s what the vote is for.

It’s just very risky. I’m not sure I want to take that risk

 

[SageNeb]

That is not helping and is unnecessary. Yes there may be issues with that but it’s also immature to start throwing stuff back at this stage.

Bro I know you just don’t want kiro nerfed

 

[kyuukestu]

Speed of...sound?

And revolving. Not movement speed.

Also, red herring again.

I converted the revolutions to meters per second for you. Here:

 

[Retro Master]

Again

@kyuukestu and @Shen: King of the Mist

Please just consider a vote and this matter can be settled rather than you two throwing salt at each other.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I converted the revolutions to meters per second for you. Here:

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And you can count revolutions for something you can’t see....?

 

[kyuukestu]

That is not helping and is unnecessary. Yes there may be issues with that but it’s also immature to start throwing stuff back at this stage.

Its actually not, my point in throwing that example was if his characters can do it then where's the balance?

 

[SageNeb]

Lmao, does anyone remember when Shen was defending Hama moving twelve two-story buildings at beyond the speed of sound? Cause I certainly do.

So its perfectly okay when your characters move literal buildings at that speed casually with one Jutsu, but its game-breaking for anyone else?

I actually don’t can you put the post?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Again

@kyuukestu and @Shen: King of the Mist

Please just consider a vote and this matter can be settled rather than you two throwing salt at each other.

Again. It’s not about salt. I’m trying to find a solution. As this ability is too abusable, I said I’d be willing to help find a compromise. Such as actually preforming a justu with actual handsigns before doing the jet.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Basically, my main issue is the lack of handsigns and doing sole emission work. If it was replaced with something of a different origin but same end result it would be fine.

 

[SageNeb]

Shen if I say anything will you just disagree cuz you disagree with 20km thing? Just tell me straight up so I don’t waste time giving input to you

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Shen if I say anything will you just disagree cuz you disagree with 20km thing? Just tell me straight up so I don’t waste time giving input to you

...No? You just keep talking down to me. I just really don’t appreciate that very much.

You should just kick us out of the rp if you don’t trust us to make good decisions for it

 

[kyuukestu]

Alright. Since we want to be democratic about this then let's just put it to a vote.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Alright. Since we want to be democratic about this then let's just put it to a vote.

That’s the thing.

I’ve covered this a few posts back. But if this goes in favor of the hina justu, it would prove pretty destructive to the environment.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Normally we do votes on who passes/doesn’t pass, what the next arc is going to be, chunnin/genin passing, etc. we don’t really cover harmful things much via voting.

 

[kyuukestu]

I mean, I was already using a single hand seal for the Jutsu even though I didn't need to. So will that pass?

 

[Retro Master]

Alright. Since we want to be democratic about this then let's just put it to a vote.

I’m in favor of the vote.