OK, so I had suspected for a while that Colosseum cheats. But I finally got proof. Orre Colosseum Level 50 Double Battle Battle 4: Zicko (Bodybuilder male) Heracross Earthquake Endure Reversal Megahorn uh, what? This is a level 50 Colosseum. Heracross learns Megahorn at level 53. It's not one of its egg moves, it's not a TM, and Heracross doesn't have a pre-evolved form that could learn the move earlier. Therefore, for a level 50 Heracross to have it... Colosseum must be cheating. It goes on... Battle 5: Macik (Street Performer female) Gligar Earthquake Slash Sandstorm Guillotine Gligar learns Guillotine at level 52. It's not one of its egg moves, or a TM, and Gligar doesn't have a pre-evolved form that learns the move earlier... (haven't I typed this whole sentence before?) And... Battle 6: Levens (Cooltrainer female) Rhydon Protect Earthquake Rock Blast Megahorn Aha! you say, Rhydon's pre-evolution Rhyhorn can learn Megahorn a whole 11 levels before Rhydon can. True. But Rhyhorn still only learns it at level 57! Now, it's vaguely possible that Colosseum's level-up moves are different from Ru/Sa or FR/LG. But if that was the case, wouldn't the "Official" Colosseum Guide list those modified moves? The shadow Pokemon Pokedex at the back of the book is pretty clear that Gligar learns Guillotine at level 52 and Heracross learns Megahorn at level 53. Also, I'd have thought at least one of the big sites would have posted modified movesets or at least noticed that Colosseum is different... Well. I have a level 44 Gligar currently, acquired from Colosseum. I'll level him up in that game, and see whether he learns Guillotine before level 52. I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but that'll be the test, won't it? I also have a level 47 Rhyhorn that I'm trying to get to learn Megahorn before she evolves, and a level 49 Heracross who I think was entirely levelled up inside Colosseum - I'll stick them in Colosseum as well, and see if they learn these moves before level 50. If they don't, then we have evidence. What to do about it, I don't know - but we can feel Smug and Superior if/when we beat the cheating game :roll:. Oh yes, and I'm posting it in this forum because I'm happy for you to stick it on the main site. As if anyone cares about Colosseum a year after it was released, but nevermindeh?