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Discussion in 'Pokémon Role Play Discussion' started by Captain Cardboard, Aug 25, 2019.
Looks good! Approved!
Hope it doesn’t seem too Mary Sue-ish that Allie has famous relations. I’m mainly using it as a point of insecurity for her.
I personally think you're fine. Besides, this'll be a fun experience. Right now, Lev doesn't know who Allie is, but once he remembers her, there'll be some good moments to be had
Naw, you're good! It's not Mary Sue-ish in the slightest.
If everyone is pretty much ready, I'll make my next post be the orientation film and begin the tournament.
I gotta make my post here soon, but I have been busy all day. I'll try to catch up as much as I can.
*Knowing that someone believes in you fills you with determination.
@SwiftSwoobat Who's OC is Eve? The only Eve I know of is one of my other OCs, who isn't in this RP.
My bad! My eyes need glasses, for real, they're broken. Though no one can afford glasses currently because we have to travel to Nevada (just a month before area 51, what a shame). So I may not be able to read that much and it pains me to type.
~~ Also, I will release something in creative corner that i created as a draft a long time ago, i typed it with glasses just incase you will be curious
Yikes, that's rough. Excited to see the creative corner release though~
Wait so Loki is only 14 and can easily defeat the johto e4?
It's a family trait, for example, his father is an astounding trainer, venturing all four known regions at the time and getting eight each. He was known as one of the best trainers of his days, though wanted to spend more time with the love of his life, Ashley.
plus red can defeat the champion and survive on a barren mountain
Um... okay. Being an amazing trainer sounds like kind of an OP family trait, especially for a 14 year old to be that strong.
Like Red or literally everyone else who defeated an entire region at 11?
Just make sure that you're careful with power level bud. It's entirely possible to be a strong trainer, but most of the trainers in roleplays who end up being super strong (ie, ones who have defeated Elite Four members, become champions) are ones that have been at it for a long time. Yes, characters like Red, Gold, and the other game protags have defeated entire regions at the age of 11. They're also overpowered, wish fulfillment characters. Which seem cool at first, but get bland when it comes to writing. After all, if they're an amazing trainer from the get go, then what's left for them to do, and what's really the point in them competing in tournaments? At that point, all they'd really be doing is just trying to claim dominance as the absolute best. Just be careful not to skirt the line between powerful, and overpowered, because it tends to ruin the fun of the roleplay having overpowered characters walking around.
Ok haha whatever. I believe everyone else thinks 14 is unrealistic as most of the powerful characters I’ve encountered have been at least 18+ and most are probably mid to late 20s. My character Acacia is the youngest one I know of capable of using mega evolution and is 19. Also to say your character can be young because the ones from the manga were also young when they set out is definitely not an equal comparison. Additionally, to have “no problem defeating them” when battling an elite four member is something way beyond the strength of even Red, the strongest of the manga characters, as he faced Bruno and had an extremely difficult time. As far as I’m concerned none of the other dex holders from the manga have even defeated an e4 member, something that is allowed here due to them being present in the anime but is still extremely hard as you first need to win that region’s Conference tournament to even get the opportunity to battle them. It’s fine to want to have a strong character, we all do, but be realistic and don’t act like an expert when the trainer’s name is actually Gold not Ethan, he doesn’t have a Pikachu, and Sudowoodo is actually one of the weaker members of his team.
My character eventually won the Indigo Plateau Conference but that was after years of training with an e4 member, Siebold, and Alder, the former Unova Champion. He also lost in many tournaments before and barley won the last one because of his newfound power of mega evolution. Acacia is an example of a really powerful character (who was approved by an admin) but he certainly didn’t just win due to the fact that his family is full of naturally strong trainers (like his older siblings) it’s because he put in the time and worked super hard to reach a realistic level of strength.
I feel like I need to add my two cents to this here. I have 9 characters, 7 of which are children to the other 2, and they are exceptional at what they do. They didn't start out like that though. Yea, they are all incredibly intelligent and wise and soaked up quite a bit of information at a young age due to their mother being a teacher before she retired and their father being an inventor, but they still had their downfalls and their struggles. They didn't even attempt any of the contests or gym challenges or the Alolan trials until they were 18, when they were done with schooling. They just explored as much as they could and caught as many Pokemon (that matched their preferences) as they could so they could learn more about these species and use them effectively between the ages of 11-18. They spent years battling in these schools and soon started their actual journeys around the regions, some of which did so to further their careers and college lessons while others ignored those and just wanted to see how much they can best themselves. It took them a collective of 10-12 years for each kid to get them to this point, making them 28 for one, 29 for two, and 30 for four.
Also, may I add that it takes a good few days to go through one route, mainly because the routes are actually gigantic compared to the scaled down versions in the games. So going through one of the regions will take up to a year if you are gungho about it, or up to 2-3 years if you are really chugging along and enjoying the scenery. In the anime, it was estimated that it took Ash a good 1.5-2 years to get through the Kanto region to obtain all 8 badges (but of course, they kept this hidden and they had to be estimated by what they say or the status of the characters or the passing of time shown in the episodes themselves). Plus, Pokemon's strengths scale like how we scale when we train our bodies. It takes days and weeks to get even strong enough to lift several pounds more with ease, and Pokemon's bodies and minds and elemental powers are much the same. I made my characters either not have the time to challenge the Elite 4 or Champions, or I made them unable to due to their insecurities or fear of losing. And I also made them less likely to even meet such characters as they are super rare to even find just walking about. You'd have to go searching for them or be in an event they would most likely go to in order for them to even see them.
And all 9 of my characters have differences in strengths with their Pokemon and each have their different battle strategies. Some of these trainers follow their Pokemon's preferred battle styles or they have their Pokemon follow their own that is then tweaked a bit depending on the Pokemon they are using. A couple of these people have weaker Pokemon due to their stances on fighting and would prefer to perform or take care of them than cause harm to their friends. Others are stronger and probably would get close to reaching the semifinals of an official league tournament if they even tried.
Games are very unrealistic when it comes to child characters and the scaling of such. Because of the advent of levels and stats in these games as well as the general mechanics of how moves work, they make such unrealistic standards to what would be portrayed in an RP. Don't get me started on the plot points...
The games also give 11-14 year olds Mega Stones before they prove they are worthy enough to even receive such things and are just handed out to further the plot and to introduce the players to the new game mechanics. Plus, these kids are able to take down full crime organizations without much trouble, mainly because the teams don't try and capture them and use Pokemon battles to attempt to control people (look how far that got them). In the anime, it's a bit more realistic, but less so if the Grunts then run away instead of pulling a trap to capture or inhibit the trainer so they can cripple their Pokemon, as well.
The issues with making characters in a universe when it is shown how unrealistic you can make them in the games (and even sometimes the anime) due to wish fulfillment and giving kids empowerment in the games is very prevalent as the line is now blurred between what is realistically acceptable and what is powerful and what is overpowered. Nobody can be like Red or Gold were in the games, or any game protagonist, unless they had someone helping them the entire way throughout their journey. Realistically, Red and Gold would be like they were in the manga, where they are shown to have character development to become as strong as they are now and they also age several years throughout the arcs.
Making a character when all we see are what the games show is extremely difficult to what we should realistically make, and it is what gets some people into trouble here on the site (mainly because they don't read or follow the rules, but also because they think having Key Stones, Mega Stones, and Legendaries/Mythicals are okay due to the games practically giving these rare Dragon Balls and powerful beasts around with hardly a challenge imposed). But also having a character whose 'power level' is on par of a champion they have defeated, and especially so at a young age. It's highly unrealistic. I can see a character training hard for a good year to beat one tough guy in the Elite 4, but all four and the Champion? I would see that being a good several years of training and soul searching before the character can even attempt that.
I just realized how much I blurted everything out without so much as proofreading whether or not some topics had been said already or if I had repeated them. XD I'll uh... fix that in a bit and make everything one post, but in the meantime I hope everyone understands this XD
Fixed it all so it all made some sense.
Also, the reason why Red is able to survive on Mt. Silver is explained in the manga. It was because he was frozen solid for a time and due to that, it changed the way he acted and the way he reacts to cold, so he can literally train his Pokemon on Mt. Silver without so much as a sweat because he was already frozen solid before. Also, my characters have the family trait of being highly intelligent and being sponges, but they each have their own desires, their own dreams, and they have their own challenges and strengths and weaknesses and they have struggled in their journies. Shade was challenged by her mental issues causing her to lose sleep and sanity as she would attempt to train and work on her schooling. This caused tension between her and her Pokemon, as well as between her and her family. She doesn't hold an honor system and doesn't think twice when going to do something against common sense, against moral and ethical etiquette, and even going so far as doing something illegal without batting an eye. She has gotten better over the years, and her trials and tribulations allowed her to realize her issues and try to fight all those impulses that could seriously hamper her relationships with other people.
So, I'm not one to usually apologize for making a hasty/poorly made post... But I feel that last post I made was exceptionally hasty and poorly made. So sorry XD
Alright, I've pretty much finished typing up the opening post for the tournament! If someone else could post, we could get this Battle Royale going!
Oh jeez, I knew I forgot something in the rules video XD. I forgot to add that in the video, Kami explains that there is an exception to the 'no stealing opponent's Pokemon' rule. And that is, after you defeat an opponent in battle, before they are Escape Rope'd out you may take one of their Pokemon. I added that rule into the video post just now. Sorry 'bout that.
Ahh, I shall edit that in then. xD So we can take an opponent's Pokemon if they are defeated in battle. Gotcha
From the Random Generator, I got Lombre. So that's always depressing. I just imagine Loki having to deal with a stubborn Pokemon that he doesn't even know the type combo of...
Allie's very well versed in Pokemon technicalities, but her weakness is planning strategies ahead of time.
Yea, with Leavanny, Shade knows how to take care of a Bug/Grass-Type and how to use psychology to help the Pokemon like her and trust her more (as she had enough practice as is trying to get her Houndoom to like her when he was a Houndour and when he was destined to be the next leader of the pack he was in). It's that she tends to forget that Bug/Grass-Types aren't like the three types she is so accustomed with, and the Leavanny has extreme trust issues, so this will be difficult on her part to change the way she speaks and acts to even get the Leavanny to not look at her funny. XD
If you end up gaining other Pokémon are you eliminated when you no longer have any Pokémon or when your main one is defeated?
Also I did a random generator and it looks like Acacia will be defeating someone with a poliwhirl
You are eliminated when you lose a Pokemon battle!
Working on a post, but wanted to ask something first. What happens if a Trainer is separated from their Royale Gear? That device is what causes them to be Escape Roped out, correct? I'm just curious what would happen if it were lost/someone got rid of it on purpose. Would they still be Escape Roped out if they lose a battle?
Well, the Royale Gear is attached to the player's backpack by a rope. But if they would lose their gear, or got rid of it on purpose, they would be disqualified and escorted out when they threw it out. If they lost it on accident somehow, a ref would come in and give them a replacement. But if they lost the replacement, they would be disqualified.
Ok, I was curious, cause I'm working on a big battle post for my character, and had an idea of their opponent ambushing them at a PokeStop. The opponent was going to remove their gear, so they wouldn't have a dot showing where they are near the PokeStop location. Then when Lev goes to get the items from the PokeStop, he doesn't have anything pop out, and gets caught off guard by the Trainer. If the refs would disqualify them immediately for that, I can rework the post, unless it's not too big a deal, since the opponent is the one cheating and they lose the battle either way. I'll work my post to however you'd like me to with that
Well, in a few PokeStops I was planning on there being chips you can add to your PokeGear to make it so your dot doesn't appear on other's maps. You can have the opponent use that. (TBH I was planning a very similar scene to happen myself XD). But it's a very, very rare find.
Ok, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was considering that idea XD My plan anyway was just for my character to get another Pokémon out of the post. So I'm not looking for them to get any items from the Stop that the guy picked up. But that would be cool if their opponent had found that chip and added it to their Gear?
Yep! Him finding the chip or him deliberately tossing away his gear, I'm okay with either way!
If you're ok with both, then I'll opt for the opponent discarding their gear this time. Maybe use that scenario for some good drama to pull in the viewers XD If I revisit the idea again later on, the next person will go with the chip method, since it's normally a disqualifiable offense to remove the gear. Thanks for the heads up on that!
So a slight question... How sturdy are the PokeStop's poles? Will they allow people to slide down them and climb up them (I'm assuming since some are camouflaged, it might be likely someone will climb one without noticing it right away, so nobody would get disqualified or whatever if they climb it)? I was wondering so Shade could potentially sneak a PokeStop grab before a group of people get it.
@Merciless Medic Uh... There aren't poles marking the PokeStops. They're just hidden boxes of loot. Sorry about that XD. But I like your post, so we can say that particular PokeStop had a pole marking it (since it was in a ravine).
Oh, well darn. XD Thank you for allowing the pole thing though. XD Or else I would have to find a way for her try to get in and out of that situation, and that would have been difficult.
I’ve been reading through the RP and I thought it would be cool if I joined it. Any spare spaces left?
Yep! We still have room!
Alright! Before I type up my character sheet, I got a question. Can your Pokémon evolve by level up?