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Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Alrighty. So if two people vote, that would only make a tie, and that’s IF two people vote for the same person, and judging by the inactivity of one of them, I’d say that the odds of that are slim to none.

This is the bracket now:
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Joker Vs Shepard @The Alright Attorney @ThAtGuY101
NiGHTS Vs Marshadow @Shen: King of the Mist @Gamingfan
Dimitri Vs Johnny Cage @The Alright Attorney @ThAtGuY101
Metal Sonic Vs Bandanna Dee @Captain Pokémon @Nukas
Masaru Vs M.Bison @Shen: King of the Mist @DarkHydraT
Specter Vs Courier 6 @Shen: King of the Mist @DevVoid
Strum Vs Eggman @DevVoid @Captain Pokémon
Gunvolt Vs Kirby @ArmedBlue [
@Gamingfan

For those fights still ongoing, you may finish them as you see fit with your fighting partner, as long as the end result is agreeable to you both and ends ideally by today.
 
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Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
*FBI enteres chat*
FBI Agent: Just pretend like I'm not here. Go on. Continue talking about that stuff you were talking about earlier. I'm not listening.

How should I make my next post? I'm assuming I need to talk with @Psymallard and @Captain Pokémon to decide how the fight ends?

ideally yeah. But if they don’t respond by the end of the day to you, you can auto as you see fit
 
*FBI enteres chat*
FBI Agent: Just pretend like I'm not here. Go on. Continue talking about that stuff you were talking about earlier. I'm not listening.

How should I make my next post? I'm assuming I need to talk with @Psymallard and @Captain Pokémon to decide how the fight ends?
I mean, I personally don’t know how Genji would go out right now, he’d be able to dodge or parry, then attack again. And he hasn’t taken much damage at all. But, votes are votes, so I guess you can auto him in whatever way you see fit.
 

ArmedBlue

Previously Manu456Alola
Quick explanation on who Joule is, as I really haven’t talked about her. Requested by @Nukas

Joule is an Adept Gunvolt met during the events of GV1. She has the Septima known as The Muse, allowing her to detect and empower other Septimas (other Adepts powers). GV1 happens, both GV and Joule get shot near the end. GV is barely alive, Joule dies instantly. Her consciousness transferred to her Septima in a different form of sorts, she merged with Gunvolt to save him and empower his Septima to new limits. She can ocasionally power up GV, though for balancing sake this won’t really come into play.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
My votes are for:

Gunvolt.

It appeared this match was a stalemate the majority of the time. It’s only through Gunvolt’s aggression and more offensive oriented actions did it seem to change. Even dealing with Mirror Kirby, which at the time I assumed would counter him hard. Kirby was fairly decent themselves, albeit their heavy reliance on copying Sonic’s dodge spam strategy despite not being a speed oriented character bugged me.


And currently I will Abstain my vote from Eggman and Strum, as it appears they are basically on an even playing field. Similar tactics, similar equipment. Any more posts in the fight could change this.
 

ArmedBlue

Previously Manu456Alola
Gunvolt

He managed to get a quick head-start on Kirby at the beginning of the fight. While Kirby did manage to counter one of his greatest assets (darts and head-on electric attacks), Gunvolt was able to work around his reflector, using a mix of martial arts and flanking electric attacks (including from below) to keep fighting.

Summoning Luxcalibur was probably his best decision, being able to handle the clones and shatter their barriers effectively, even surrounding Kirby with Crashbolts to give him less room to dodge. The rest of the match, as Shen said, has been a stalemate, neither fighter landing a good hit for a while. With Luxcalibur back in his hands once more and with the options his dart types give him, Gunvolt can be the winner.

As for Eggman and Sturm, I'm gonna hold off on that one as well, as they're pretty much evenly matched. I will say that Sturm's egoistic and overconfident nature have already resulted in him taking a hit, so I think Eggman has a slightly better shot. The match needs to play out for a little bit longer though.
 
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Gamingfan

Previously Gamingfan2
Okay, here we go.

Kirby
So, Gunvolt held a pretty surprising advantage at first, landing a strong hit on kirby. However, once Kirby got the his abilties, it started evening out. Mirror managed to land a couple of GV's own electric bolts on him, and while the Star rod doesn't reflect them, it defends against projectiles, and quite strong, able to land a fair amount of hits as well, as opposed to the close-range mirror ability. GV's aerial mobility allowed him to land a surprise shock, but Kirby's warp star gave him equal footing, and it can be resummoned at a whim. Gunvolt's main gimmick , his darts and flashfeild, are invalidated pretty much entirely leaving only the Luxcaliber as a form of damage, which is close ranged and capable of being shot out of GVs hands.

The two couldn't really get close to each other during the other half of the fight, but Kirby actually didn't need to.


And I'll try and get up a vote for the other fight soonish
 
Here are my votes. Sorry for lack of Kirby vs Gunvolt, while I have been reading the fights, I personally don't think I've been paying enough attention to give a fair vote at the moment.

Eggman
First things first, the damage Sturm has taken. A punch from Big Arms, which has hurt Super Sonic. Knocked into a Egg Cannon with great force. Fell from one fighter jet to another from a decent distance, which has to hurt at least a little. Took a laser from point blank range. Took a direct punch from the Interceptor, which must hurt even if he...put his arms up? How effective would that be exactly for a punch from a giant robot that can cause shockwaves with a single punch? Overall he has taken quite the beating. Second, the mega mack situation. While this did kind of equalize the match, Eggman seems to be much more aware of the rising mega mack than Sturm is. In fact, there's a chance Sturm isn't even aware at all at the moment. The mega mack could easily catch Sturm by surprise and cause him to lose the match. Eggman also has more aerial units than Sturm does, and they are both stuck in the air unless they want to give the mega mack a hug. This gives him an edge. Eggman also seems to have a much more versatile moveset overall, having access to a very wide arsenal while Sturm is stuck with very few units, and said units have very few attacks.
Eggman also covers all distances much better and more efficient than Sturm can. All Sturm has is standard weapons like missiles, bullets, and some bombs, which are all really only good at mid to long range. That's all I've seen anyway. Meanwhile Eggman has all of this and more, like lasers, saws, tracking missiles, and more. His close range potential is also better than Sturm's, thanks to his instant-firing lasers, big arms, and some robots that specialize at that range. The floor is also gone, and Eggman has a major advantage, considering his superior aerial prowess. Overall, Egghead seems to outclass Sturm in basically every department. (I will add to this if I get any more ideas. And, no, I didn't spend an hour and a half writing this, I just left the tab open for a while.)
 
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DevVoid

Previously Deathstalker62
Gunvolt:

For me, the match seemed kind of like a tie at first, reading up on it. Everyone avoiding eachother's moves, deflecting attacks, getting maybe a few minor hits in, all that good stuff. However, as I read on, I will have to agree with Armed and Shen that Gunvolt has this fight in the bag. While the two traded blows, Gunvolt seemed more aggressive in the fight, something which can certainly be used to not just pressure Kirby, but also end up overwhelming him. Also him defeating Mirror Kirby is really an achievement, considering how powerful the Mirror Kirby was against Gunvolt's (mostly) ranged attacks. So, my vote goes to Gunvolt.

Sturm:
Now, I will say, Sturm has taken some damage through this fight, but mostly, he has been keeping up 1:1 with Eggman. The only hits I remember Eggman taking were: getting slightly grazed by the meteor; getting his mobile grazed by missiles and, of course, being shot in the arm. Eggman's been dodging most of Sturm's attacks, mind you. Sturm would've done more damage to Eggman, if him and somehow his robots (even the grunts) adapted to the above mentioned dodge spam strategy. Eggman even has dodged point-blank bullets, (literally) from the sheer luck alone that he had fallen out of their trajectory. The only damage he took from that was being shot in the arm.

Granted, Sturm has also been dodging, and I tried to reduce his dodging to a minimum amount, but with how Eggman's attacks were described, it really is a gamble on what to have Sturm be hit by and what not, considering most of Eggman's attacks seem to be near instant-kills for Sturm anyway

Now, with the equalizer inbound, Eggman has pressure put on him, just aswell as Sturm. Defeat the other quickly or die trying. Now this is something Sturm can win in. Because Sturm is a intellectual dictator, he can keep calm in this situation, while Eggman is most likely bound to make mistakes with the pressure rising. I mean, Sturm made four whole nations nearly destroy eachother, with only a clone of one of the nation's commanders. Sturm would easily adapt to this situation and win.

Oh, and about the damage he took, I will explain how much damage these hits did:
For starters, most of them had reduced damage, due to the fact that Sturm is wearing metal armour and the robots were designed to attack and kill organic matter, like Sonic.


- First big arm punch, yes. It took him by suprise and did a good deal of damage to Sturm, not calculating the protection from his metal suit.

- The knockback in the Egg Cannon however wasn't much considering how close the Egg Cannons were, not giving Eggman much opportunity to really launch Sturm with the punch.

- The laser he took, even at point blank, did barely anything to Sturm. It was a laser from a grunt, and nearly none of the Robot's attacks can hope to even break dirt and rocks, nevermind Sturm's metal suit.

- Sturm's first hit from the Interceptor was reduced heavily by summoning transport helicopters infront of him that dampened the impact.

- Let's take into consideration the Interceptor. Interceptor, a strong robot. Sturm, a large, bulky alien with a metal suit practically attached to him. Taking in the fact that Sturm is so big, and the size of the Interceptor's fist is smaller than even him, I'd think that along with his metal suit, putting his arms up and bracing for impact would be a successful block.

I will also add on to this should I remember/read up on something I happened to forget about.
 
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Gunvolt.

A good portion of the fight between gunvolt and kirby was pretty much avoiding attacks, however gunvolt was seemed to cause more substantial damage. I do think kirby did good ,but I think gunvolt got the upper hand.

Sturm.

In this fight both sides have good defences, counters ,and all sorts of useful abilities. Eggman had all sorts of gadgets and stuff ,and Sturm managed to counter most of them. WHile yes, the same could be said for eggman. I believe if this fight continued for long enough. I assume Sturm would eventually get the win. Atleast that was my thought.

I chose the choices that I did cause I read the votes ,and I saw some good arguments... Sorry for lack of 'in depth response'. :'|:arr:
 
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Nukas

Previously Kid_Nukas
Alright, took me a while to get through both fights, but after reading through them, I feel I have made up my mind.

Kirby vs Gunvolt
Gunvolt
Wow, shocker. I went with the same thing that everyone else went with. I know I sometimes vote against the grain, but that's because whenever I do, I truly believe who I'm voting for would win. In this case, I just see Gunvolt winning this matchup. As most people have pointed out, Gunvolt had a pretty clear advantage in the beginning of the fight. Now mirror Kirby did even that up for a while, but Gunvolt adapted pretty well, setting up traps that would make it hard for Kirby to get past. He thought very logically about the fight. Neither has gotten a good hit in a while, but Gunvolt is still setting up positions where Kirby doesn't really have an option to fight back and can only dodge, basically putting Kirby on a huge defensive.

Now let's talk about Warp Star. I have a problem with the fact that the warp star was destroyed at least three times, with seemingly no consequence. It was first destroyed by a Kirby clone in order to throw off Gunvolt. Next, it was literally eaten by Kirby so he could use the star rod. Finally, Gunvolt destroyed it, only for it to come back again. The warp star got Kirby out of situations that should have hurt him. Now while I don't like dodge spam, it did still happen and damage was avoided because of it, but I feel like there should've been a limit to how many times that warp star could be destroyed. Anyway, with my rant over, I feel like if more time had passed, Gunvolt would've worked around this as well as he has been shown to adapt. Overall, I just felt like Gunvolt has the upper hand.

Sturm vs Eggman
Sturm
Sorry Captain, but Sturm does end up getting my vote for this one. Talk about a bullet-hell for a fight. Honestly, the two were pretty evenly matched, but my vote is based off of a few things. Sturm did have clear strategies and was able to out-maneuver Eggman's barrage of robots and keep his cool, even when faced off against huge robots. Sturm also has been keeping up with Eggman blow for blow despite half of his arsenal being pretty much unusable. Sturm's armor has also kept him from taking too much damage this fight. Sure he would be a little injured, but not as much as Eggman, which brings me on to my next point.

Eggman was shot in the arm. This has been mostly shrugged off both in most of the arguments I've seen in here as well as in rp, but that's a huge deal. It didn't say he was grazed either, it said shot. The wording is important. Now I don't know where in the arm he was shot, but I imagine the bullet went clean through, which means Eggman is bleeding out a lot right now and has made no effort to try and stop the bleeding. Also, he uses mainly his arms in his eggmobile which means he is actively stressing the area of the wound which is likely causing the bleeding to be even worse. Again, maybe the bullet didn't hit anything too vital in the arm, but without even attempting to doctor it, it's going to worsen, especially in these conditions.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist

ArmedBlue

Previously Manu456Alola
Might as well put down my vote before I forget to lol

Metal Sonic

Granted, this is a very difficult fight to vote on since it hasn't gotten too much progress. But in terms of each character's speed, power and versatility, I believe Metal beats Cage in those departments. Metal's aerial prowess can be seen multiple times throughout what little of the fight has gone on, allowing him to move to a nearly safe spot (can only really be reached by jumping attacks and projectiles, and most humans don't do too well in the air). His speed has gotten him out of harm's way a couple of times, zipping around Cage to keep attacking from multiple angles. V. Maximum Overdrive is also a pretty good attack, though limited by its venting requirement (which Metal did try minimizing, but it means the attack won't be active for too long). Overall, I think Metal would be the winner in this case.
 
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Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Alrighty. Made up my vote


Metal Sonic

Metal is quite the nimble little machine, using this to his advantage by dodging enemy attacks, allowing himself to safely bombard the enemy from a distance. If this continues like it is now, Metal Sonic would surely win. Seeing as Johnny is a close combat specialist, this leaves Metal with a big advantage.
 

comic

Previously turnt3chGodh34d
i am not a part of melee, and while the votes are obviously in Metal's favor, if i may, i shall vote...

Johnny Cage.

he's come this far, which is saying a lot. besides, it'd be nice for Sonic characters to lose to something that isn't purely anime once in a while. no this is not an invitation to whip out anime Johnny Cage. those who know me are pretty aware of my... distaste... of Sonic. so my vote obviously goes to the movie star.
 

Nukas

Previously Kid_Nukas
Ok so we've had a lot of tough votes in the lifespan of our rp, but this is by far the toughest. Neither player has gotten a hit on the other. However, I do think I've made my vote.

Metal Sonic
Not surprising, but I think Metal takes it. Cage is very capable, and it's very hard to choose either, but Metal is able to keep his distance. He can fly which already gives him an advantage against the grounded Cage. Honestly, I was about to vote Cage due to the fact that he is aiming to get a hit in and I feel like if he plays his cards right, he could do some damage, but Metal being someone who can fight from multiple ranges just makes this a hard matchup for Cage. I wish there was more to go on so that I could be more sure of my vote.
 

Nukas

Previously Kid_Nukas
i am not a part of melee, and while the votes are obviously in Metal's favor, if i may, i shall vote...

Johnny Cage.

he's come this far, which is saying a lot. besides, it'd be nice for Sonic characters to lose to something that isn't purely anime once in a while. no this is not an invitation to whip out anime Johnny Cage. those who know me are pretty aware of my... distaste... of Sonic. so my vote obviously goes to the movie star.
I'm sorry, but I am obligated to ask if you actually read the fight. Voting in this rp is meant to be taken very seriously and we try not to show bias in our votes. I only ask you because I don't see a single in rp reason that you stated for Cage winning. I can see it being possible for Cage to win, and I can imagine there is an argument for it, one I almost made myself, but you need to make that argument for the vote to count.
 
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