I just got a piplup and been planning on training it like this: Empoleon @ Wave Incense Nature Serious Ability Torrent EVs 252 HP / 252 Sp. Def / 4 Sp. Atk - Surf - Hydro Canon - Drill Peck - Hydro Pump So if you have any advice on if i should change the moveset or ev's or anything, thanks. Edit 12/9/10 I dont want to start a new topic since that would be against the rules. So i would also like advice on a move set for my flareon & roserade: Flareon @ None Mild Nature Flash fire EV's: 4 Atk / 252 Speed / 252 Sp. Atk No Moves right now. Roserade @ None Modest Nature Poison Point EV's: 252 Speed / 252 Sp. Def / 4 HP Moves: Synthesis Petal Dance Aromatherapy Toxic Spikes Roserade is currently set to be a toxic/heal support unless i get any suggestions to switch it. So if you have any specfic suggestions, for flareon, i was thinking hidden power grass, and fire fang, so far, but if you have anything better, please reply.