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DPPt/HGSS team troubles

Discussion in 'The Doctor's Clinic' started by shadowlatias, Apr 23, 2008.

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  1. firstly, im not new to team building. just have no idea what the last pokemon in my party should be.

    you can rate these if you want
    Mewtwo:

    psychic
    aura sphere
    barrier
    calm mind

    empoleon:
    surf
    ice beam
    brine
    hydro cannon

    zapdos:

    thunder
    charge
    shock wave
    fly

    articuno:

    mind reader
    ice beam
    sheer cold
    roost

    veanasaur:
    petal dance
    solarbeam
    leech seed
    sleep powder

    lastly...

    either a:

    latias

    mist ball
    hyper beam
    dragon claw
    dive

    b:

    dialga

    dragon claw
    roar of time
    draco meteor
    blizzard

    or c

    azelf

    nasty plot
    extrasensory
    explosion
    u turn
     
  2. Jeydis

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    You say your not new yet I see alot of new player mistakes here...

    http://www.pokecharms.com/forums/smf/index.php?topic=3017.0
    http://www.pokecharms.com/forums/smf/index.php?topic=1600.0

    Read those 2 links and modify your team accordingly.

    PS: mods, sorry for the mini modding but the topic bugged the crap out of me >_>
     
  3. Jeydis, is it legal to have those many legendaries and ubers? :-\
     
  4. well my articuno can work miracles with mind reader and sheer cold. unfortunitly that seems like my only strength

    oh god your right. so now I have to scrap most of my team?
     
  5. Jeydis

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    Depends who you play with. The pokecharms rules for standard play with other members of 'charms state that Ubers are completly banned (So Mewtwo, Latias and Dialga are gone) and only one of any other legendary. Standard rules of online gaming by smogon (The big kahunas of standard pokemon competitions) state no Ubers unless its an all ubers match but appart from that you can have the rest of the legendaries.

    And now for my frustration outlet:

    PLEASE READ MY PREVIOUS POST TO THIS TOPIC

    ... geez youd think this guy is blind or something...
     
  6. jee, do you even know what mind reader does? it insures a hit. that hit is sheer cold.

    and yes, i did read it.
     
  7. She knows about Sheer Cold / Mind Reader.. but you still haven't made changes to your team.. according to the two links she posted
     
  8. Im trying to search for moves.
    Anything for venusaur?
     
  9. http://www.pokecharms.com/forums/smf/index.php?topic=3017.0

    ^ Click.. Scroll down until you see 'grass'..

    It will give you a list of good grass moves to use. :p
     
  10. Jeydis

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    Yes I know what mind reader does and that cheap (and illegal in standard online play) combo has been around for a long time.

    Here are some important things to know about making topics in this section and should apply to your First post:

    Since you missed that the first time here it is in pretty purple boxes.

    So no Hyper Beams/Dive/Fly/Non-Sunny Day Solar beams, no Sheercold comboes, No petal dancing Venusaurs (ugh), no double water moves on Empoleon.

    EDIT: Darn you guys beat me to posting... I took too long :S

    For moves for Venusaur id consider Sludge Bomb as a nice replacement for Solar Beam (If you have no Sunny Day plans) and ditch Petal dance for Leaf Storm or Grass Knot at least.
     
  11. sadly, I cant teach it any of them exept solarbeam and energy ball.

    aslo wheres the tm for leaf storm
     
  12. Yeah Sludge Bomb & Grass Knot would be excellent alternatives.. I know Sludge Bomb is great.. I have it on my Crobat & it works wonders ;D

    I don't think leaf storm comes as a TM.. :-X
     
  13. still how do i teach venasaur leaf storm

    also i taught it petal dance, because it was replacing frenzy plant.

    and leach seed replaced giga drain.

    i dont want sunny day, as that makes my weakness to fire 2.5, and that would hurt if i was up agaisnt a blaziken. infact, now i dont have a counter for blaziken, as mewtwo is out >_<

    OH GREAT. MY ONLY BACKUP PLAN IS A LINNONE MY FREIND GAVE ME, AND A FLAREON.

    why did he raise the linnone to level 78?
     
  14. Jeydis

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    Leafstorm is taught to the Bulbasaur line by Breeding so get Leafstorm on either one of these )dont forget for them to be males and the Bulba/Ivy/Venu to be female:
    - victreebell
    - exeggutor
    - Bellossom
    - Sunflora
    - Grovyle
    - Sceptile
    - Shiftry
    - Tropius
    - Turtwig
    - Grotle
    - Torterra
    - Wormadam (grass)

    If you cant manage that you can use Energy Ball, that works too.

    I have a lvl 100 one on my Ruby because of my abuse of Pick Up :p

    Flareon can be pretty cool though.
     
  15. so i have to get a venasuar raised all over again?

    ... mabye I can teach it Double edge.
     
  16. Jeydis

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    That can work, altough Energy Ball and Sludge Bomb would be all you need for Venu. With Leech seed and Sleep Powder of course.
     
  17. so uhh... empoleon?
     
  18. Jeydis

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    Empoleon can go 2 ways depending on the EV training you give it (given your reaction to rebreeding im guessing you dont EV train) so here is a basic Build for empoleon to cover major threats:

    Item held: Life Orb ro anything else that can help boost its Sp. damage.
    - Agility
    - Surf / Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot / Stealth Rock

    Since Empoleon has mediocre speed I gave it Agility to even things out. The choice between Surf and Hydro goes by your personal tastes, wether you like having More PP or more Power. For Grass Knot and Stealth Rock it goes by the availability for you with the TM. That last slot can be any normal filler move I suppose, like Protect or Yawn or Roar etc.
     
  19. If you are going for a Sp Atk Empoleon, it wouldn't be amiss to throw Flash Cannon on there too, might as well get all the STAB you can. my personal one atm is

    Surf
    Flash Cannon
    Ice Beam
    Drill Peck - will be exchanged for Agility when I get around to rebreeding for a better nature
     
  20. still, my team has 2 empty spots. if suicune isnt a uber, shove a pkrs one in. now....

    Zangoose, I have seen go well, or Skarmory.

    so....

    empoleon
    venasaur
    suicune
    linnone
    flareon
    zangoose/skarmory

    unless latias isnt a uber (its alowed in the battle tower?)
     
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