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What if Shaymin's 60% Flinch became Sleep

Discussion in 'Pokémon Games Discussion' started by Silver-Solis, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. Introducing, Grassy Terrain, which when using nature power, gives a 30% Chance of sleep, and on shaymin, 60% Sleep. I just have this feeling that terrain might be banned now. Or at least nature power
  2. Shiny Pyxis

    Shiny Pyxis 2016 Singles Football

    Knowing Smogon, who end up banning everything, I don't think Grassy Terrain itself would be banned, or even Nature Power, or even the exact combination of "A Shaymin who is on the same team as another Pokemon that can summon Grassy Terrain and knows the move Nature Power". 60% isn't much compared to the 100% accuracy Spore has, which several Pokemon can learn, or even a Compound Eyes Pokemon that uses Sleep Powder (97.5% accuracy), or just sleep powder itself (75% accuracy).

    Not broken at all, and even possibly a little gimmicky. I don't see Smogon banning it anytime soon even after Gen VII hits, since that means they'd likely have to ban all sleep moves. Which is... kind of silly and removes the entire point of the Sleep Clause in general.

    As for official tournaments, Shaymin's already banned so that entire point is moot.
  3. The difference between all the moves you mentioned and nature power is that Nature power does damage though. It is the new air slash
  4. Shiny Pyxis

    Shiny Pyxis 2016 Singles Football

    Again, quite gimmicky (requires a bit of set-up and switching Shaymin in), and 60% chance of sleep still isn't much. Heck, if No Guard Dynamic Punch Machamp isn't banned, which gives 100% confusion and has more base power than Nature Power, I don't see this particular situation ever being banned unless Smogon decides to go on a mass banning spree.
  5. I see your point. Still with Tapu Bulu being able to summon Grassy terrain on switch in, I have a feeling Gen VII is going to be a terrain war. Since so many pokemon summon terrain of course.

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