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Discussion in 'General Role Play Discussion' started by Shen: King of the Mist, Mar 19, 2018.
Sigh *goes to edit post*
Sagisō: *Heavy Breathing* Hah-hah, If you come at me like that I'm going to get excited you know~?
I want some extra visualization on how the Shuriken are approaching Sagisō. Should I view them as encircling her with wires between them for a curved 'net'?
something like this?
I also need a proximity check for the paper-tagged Kunai. How close are they to Sagisō? I imagine she landed basically next to them, is this assumption correct?
Yeah, something like that I guess.
She should’ve landed a bit behind. They are three meters apart so each kunai is probably a bit over one meter away. Here’s a good visual of the distance:
I also took into account that she had to move up to initiate the cartwheel. So she’s probably where the ball is at due to her kunai falling in the middle. By the time Sagisō hits her kunai, she should be in front.
Anyways, sorry if I confused you. I’m not really good at describing this stuff. I also drew a visual from above on paper, but my drawings can’t really be trusted lel
Neat, I was just gauging distances to see how much chakra I'd need to use to deal with everything in one go.
My initial plan was fairly chakra intensive since it involved an awkward throw back followed by intentionally detonating the paper bombs and using the Mountain crusher to force-channel the ensuing explosion into Sagiso's counter attack... But thats a fair deal of chakra.
With these approximations I have a new, far less chakra intensive plan! Ah, though by this point Sagiso is thoroughly impressed by the trap Kiro had set and is now battle-lusted. Any reservations she might've had before are out the window. She'll tear apart the whole training hall if needs be.
Sagisō: *destroys entire training hall*
Hinagiku: *Hands Kiro tools to start the repairs*
@ScorchPlayz are you still with us?
Yes but I don’t think I’m needed for anything?
You could always have Raiku respond to Hama's offer at a joint village camp, like how I plan for all my characters to do so when I get the opportunity to post.
Sagisō: 'Joint Village Camp'... ya'll gonna get murdered in your sleep.
Taiyo: Thats what I was gonna say, thank you!
Back Handspring to Split Transition
I didn't end up using the other gymnastic move I was thinking of...
A simple diagram of the Plank Maneuver.
Rectangles are, of course, the Plants.
Circles represent the position of Sagisō's hands.
The Stars represent the position of the Kunai knives.
The line represents the fulcrum and the arrows rotation in either direction.
A good book, here's The Art of War if you wanna do some follow up reading.
Tsuki: Thank you, I'll go read that after this trip, assuming I dont get stabbed in my sleep of course.
@ScorchPlayz considering a camp had materiaized in front of them, a Raiku reaction would matter a great deal here XD
Hey, can ninja remotely activate an opponent’s explosive tags?
I know when Madara was destroying the alliance in the anime, he grabbed that one guy’s kunai and smacked the tag on someone else. But I’m pretty sure that one was already set to activate. I also know they can be forcefully activated with fire.
Personally I doubt it but just asking in case I’m wrong.
In fact yes you can. Sakon was a master of said technique, as with konan. It just costs a tiny portion of chakra. If your out of chakra you cannot remotely detonate it
So if a character is skilled enough, when an opponent pulls out an explosive tag, they can activate it themselves?
That’s not quite how it works. You see for that specific technique to work, you need to put a tiny amount of your chakra into an explosive tag. That way when you use the technique, the chakra inside the paper bombs will create a spark that will detonate it
Yeah I know that you can remotely activate paper bombs. I was asking if an opponent can remotely activate your own paper bombs.
Only if they manage to sneak their own chakra into your supply.
For example, an aburame could effectively do this if they have a beetle bite into their chakra network and fly over into the enemy’s paper bomb stash and spit it out.
Or even ino could technically, putting chakra in her hair and cutting it, a single strand of hair placing chakra into the opponet’s Paper bombs
Sagiso: *sips tea suspiciously*
Paper bombs can be activated via Chakra, Force or Fire. They can be activated remotely as long as any of those three criteria can be applied remotely in enough quantity.
Lmao I think I’m the one who should be suspicious!
Sagiso: eh..? You've got some gall accusing me after you went for a crippling blow in the first turn.
Taiyo: at least I saved my forbidden technique until the end of my match, and then I made it so I dont die everytime i use it.
Oh, very nicely done.
Sagisō is perfectly capable of performing Rotation in her current position though, she was actually capable of doing it in the last 'trap' as well. It's not the first time she's performed rotation upside down or off her feet. Still though, since you're determined not to use chakra...I suppose I should try to do the same.
I think I have a rather good visual of what's going on here...
So the Kunai Sagisō had thrown at Kiro's feet are now headed towards her from the front.
The Shuriken that missed Sagisō's board trap are now circling around from the sides.
Kiro's thrown the two bomb-tagged Kunai at her from above.
You need a counterforce to work the lever since it's a seesaw-model (e.g. the kunai got uprooted because it was on one end of the see-saw and Sagisō was on the other end.)
Imagine the apple as the Kunai, and the girl as Sagisō. Sagisō being far heavier than a Kunai uproots it with ease, especially since it wasn't even embedded probably anymore as Sagisō had cut the wood it was lodged in.
What you have at the moment is this
Where Kiro is forcing one side up...but there isn't anything to force it back down again. So when Kiro lets go...well...nothing happens.
I digress though, I understood what you were trying to do and it's not super important for what I wanted to do next;
This is important though. You mentioned that he attached 3 wires to each of Sagisō's kunai...but what happened to the wires afterward? They kinda don't get mentioned again...
Like...are they another next in front of Sagisō? or..?
Also...which kunai is this
Mind you break the fulcrum with all that pulling.
this is best suited for applying torque(rotating force) or rotating one side about the axis to produce the opposite effect on the other side. What you're doing should just pull it right off its hinges. Check with Shen and Zander though, it might just be the way I visualized it.
Just clear up what happened to the wires and the ghost kunai and I'll be good.
@Rohan Kishibe @Godjacob waiting on you guys
Yeah, rotation was kind of what I expected for both times. As for chakra usage, yeah, I have to be conservative. I don’t think you need to worry about chakra usage though.
Well remember he was still holding on to four wires in each hand. He connected the ends of three of those wires on one of Sagisō’s kunai and another three on the other. The last two are the ones that weren’t caught by the levers.
Those kunai are Sagisō’s kunai at the end of the wires. When the wires begin to unravel, the kunai at the ends should intersect at the same point.
Sagiso: Then let me just...make sure that never happens.
I almost feel bad for ruining this plan so casually...almost!
Sagiso's going to take control of the Kunais and change their trajectories.
They'll never intersect, in fact they'll probably veer off and just go straight for the paper bomb Kunai so I can deal with that while I'm at it. I might also have them change directions again and gun after Kiro...
I'll be nice though and tell you they'll (probably) just be distractions and the real attack will come from the two Shuriken behind Kiro. Don't know how you're going to dodge in mid-air, especially since Kiro's already thrown himself into forward momentum...buuuuut good luck~!
I suppose...I should actually make you work for this escape though...return the favor, can't be underestimating our prodigal Uchiha~
Sooooooo the kunai behind you will also be mere distractions, the real assault will come from a windstorm she'll stir up right under Kiro which will, of course, drag in all the makibishi and create a violent cyclone of steel and razor sharp winds. Maybe I'll be extra cruel and make it a funnel. No, I'll definitely make it a funnel. It'll be a low pressure system so there are a few things you'll need to take into account to deal with it.
So low pressure systems look like this
1) This means the source of the wind will actually be below you, so you'll need to take that out to dissipate the system. But I might just...you know... make sure Sagiso is there and dash all hopes of that happening.
2) You'll need to remember the Makibishi. A current passing through a conductor causes a small magnetic field to be produced. If you're not careful you'll produce a shit ton of magnetized ninja spikes and I don't think I need to spell out when happens when you add a human to a cyclone of magnetized spikes.
3) If you're going to use fire style you'll need to be fairly specific about what you're doing or you will create a fire devil rather than extinguishing the system. If this was a high pressure system then you would've been fine, but this is the opposite.
Increasing the temperature rashly will lower the pressure even further and strengthen the cyclone. It might also turn the system into a Fire devil/Firenado.
At its basics though it'll just be a whirlwind of air and Makibishi spikes to be funneled upwards at you.
Did I also mention I was going to blow the entire thing to hell?
I'll get home in...about 4 hours. So I'll probably start writing the post then. toodles~
I mean cool, but why you tell him this, surely you could've just waited and watch him squirm.
It's a spar, not a deathmatch. Unlike Kiro, Sagiso doesn't have any intents to cripple/maim him so I'm making sure most of her attacks are non-lethal and for stuff like this I might as well give a warning.
Oh, it also ensures I can get feedback before I post so that I don't have any misunderstandings.
I had to edit sections of my last post cause of misunderstandings and that kinda threw off my plans a bit. Trying to avoid that again.
Sagisō will be using chakra for this, right? If so, my goal of getting Sagisō to use a significant amount of chakra first will be complete.
However, those kunai will come after the wires. So if Sagisō stays right there in the same position, she would get caught by the wires. They should’ve gone pretty fast once they were released.
But considering how lenient you’ve been with me, I don’t really mind. Do whatever you wish XD
*remembers deleted sentence where Kiro lands on the ceiling*
Maybe I should’ve kept that...
This prodigy was also genius enough to wear only shorts in freezing temperatures. At least he has his own set of marshmallows!
Kiro: *looks at destroyed training hall as Hinagiku stands behind him* It wasn’t me...
Lmao cut Kiro a break. Even though Kiro normally fights to kill, he’s trying not too this time. So he’s still learning.
However, Kiro also expects Sagisō to counter those techniques. For him, what’s lethal to everyone else isn’t lethal for her. She’s beyond everyone in their age group. That’s the impression she’s given Kiro at least.
Like when he sparred with Raiku in the future (past- I don’t even know anymore...), I doubt Kiro even bothered with these tactics. Then again, that was also a ‘friendly’ spar that took place after this fight.
Kiro: Yeah, I would’ve been surprised if Sagisō allowed herself to be harmed by such basic attacks.
On another note, Nebby- no, Scorch is being selective with his likes. The Nebby I know would like everything!
Question. Is this campfire the Hama campfire?
Nope. He made his own.
Okay that makes more sense. Because if Kiro Just strode in that would change EVERYTHING XD
Yeah imagine lmao
Kiro: Yo Kai, I brought the marshmallows.
At that moment, every Xeno in a mile radius suddenly dropped dead
You didn't actually imagine, for even a second, that wires would be able to trap Sagisō for more than a split second right?
Lots of science going on on Kyuu's side