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My new team

Discussion in 'Pokémon Games Discussion' started by baratron, Apr 29, 2005.

  1. baratron

    baratron Moderator of Elder Scrolls
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    I'm making a new team at the moment (in Ruby) and my criteria is that the Pokemon must be pkmn I've never used before. I'm willing to breed for egg moves/to get moves early, but I don't want to use legendaries. And I have access to all of the games.

    The pkmn I have used heavily in the past are:
    Blastoise, Charizard, Cloyster, Dugtrio, Exeggutor, Gardevoir, Gengar, Golem, Gyarados, Houndoom, Kangaskhan, Machamp, Magneton, Marshtomp, Metagross, Mightyena, Nidoqueen, Pidgeot, Poliwrath, Qwilfish, Salamence, Skarmory, Snorlax, Starmie, Venusaur, Victreebel.

    So far the team consists of:
    ~Rash nature~ *Synchronize*
    Fire Punch - FIRE
    Ice Punch - ICE
    Thunderpunch - ELECTRIC
    Psychic - PSYCHIC

    ~Serious nature~ *Swarm*
    Slash - NORMAL
    Metal Claw - STEEL
    Silver Wind - BUG

    Shroomish --> will evolve to Breloom at lv 54
    ~Serious nature~ *Effect Spore*
    will have:
    Leech Seed - GRASS
    Focus Punch - FIGHTING
    Giga Drain OR Headbutt, depending on how EVs turn out

    I want to add a Water type, and maybe a Normal or Ghost type (I haven't really played Ghosts much apart from Gengar). I should probably add some Poison, Rock and/or Ground moves. I'm thinking about training an Octillery and a Sceptile:

    ~ not sure ~ *Overgrow*
    Crunch - DARK
    Leaf Blade - GRASS
    Rock Slide - ROCK OR Earthquake - GROUND

    Suggestions, please!
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  2. hmmmm personaly I would perfer earthquake over rockslide it just fits sceptile better and for water well there are so many waters out there maybe lanturn because it could,benefit as a water and an electric or feraligater I don't like wailord though its defenses are just too low
  3. baratron

    baratron Moderator of Elder Scrolls
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    Yeah - I was thinking of training either Lanturn or Whiscash. Thing is, Water & Ground is a bit annoying. Although it removes Water's vulnerability to Electric attacks, the pkmn ends up 4 x vulnerable to Grass, and also normally (1 x) vulnerable to Ice, Water and Ground. Also, Swampert was my first pkmn ever, and Whiscash is a bit similar.

    The advantage of Rock Slide on Sceptile is that it compensates for Sceptile's vulnerabilities to Fire, Ice, Flying and Bug. Earthquake only compensates for Fire and Poison, and has no effect on Flying and only little effect (0.5 x) on Bug. I tend to find Flying types particularly annoying to Grass pkmn, especially because they tend to have such high speed.
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  4. Linkachu

    Linkachu Hero of Pizza
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    Very true, although think about this. When you get Emerald you can use the Move Tutor to teach Sceptile Thunder Punch. It'd take care of your Flying-types with a better accuracy than Rock Slide and then you'd be able stick with EQ (which is always useful to have for its power alone). Plus, since there aren't many pure Ice-types in the games you'd only be missing out on an anti-Bug attack, most of them are part Flying or Poison anyways.

    Just a thought.
  5. StellarWind Elsydeon

    StellarWind Elsydeon Armblades Ascendant
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    Not to mention you could toss Dragon Claw onto Sceptile... I personally hate Sceptile's guts (Ruined a perfectly good evolution line... ;_; ) but hey, if you're going for the Treeckosaurus Rex, might as well stick a powerful dragon move on it. (shrugs) Then again, I'm biased since I like Dragon Claw so much. ^_^;

    But yeah. Leaf Blade and Crunch are a must.
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  6. baratron

    baratron Moderator of Elder Scrolls
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    Sceptile and Octillery are out for now - I haven't managed to breed a Treecko or Remoraid with decent stats. I guess I'll keep them back for Emerald. (Are the Elite Four in Emerald the same as in Ruby & Sapphire? i.e. Dark, Ghost, Ice & Dragon?)

    So my team is fixed at Alakazam, Scizor (who I've been VERY impressed with - she has fantastic IVs) and Shroomish. I've added a Castform:

    Sunny Day
    Rain Dance
    Weather Ball
    Solarbeam OR Hail

    When Sunny Day or Rain Dance are active, Weather Ball becomes a Fire or Water move with the staggering power of 225!
    (Base power 50
    x 2 because a weather effect is in play
    x 1.5 Sunny Day/Rain Dance same-type bonus
    x 1.5 STAB as Castform changes type to match the weather = 225)

    Hail "only" gets power 150, because there isn't a bonus for using an Ice move in Hail, so I'm not sure whether to go for that or the Grass-type Solarbeam, which gets powered up by Sunny Day. An Ice move would be more useful for the E4, but then again 2 of Drake's dragons have Flamethrower so would hurt Ice-type Castform a lot - decisions, decisions.

    I'm thinking of adding a Walrein - never trained one before and I have deep moral objections to them after Colosseum ;), but they seem quite powerful. Walrein will probably have:
    Ice Beam - ICE
    Earthquake - GROUND
    Surf / Waterfall - WATER
    Body Slam - NORMAL ?

    Ice Beam and Earthquake can both be bred across from my male Swampert, saving me some TMs 8). Uncertain whether the fourth move will be Body Slam, or if there's something better (ideas...?).

    So then all I need is a sixth Pokemon. I have no idea what would complement these five, but I'm thinking about trying to get a Crobat as I don't think I've managed to evolve any Zubats. Crobat would have:
    Confuse Ray
    Shadow Ball - GHOST
    Poison Fang - POISON (power 50 + STAB, & it's Toxic-type poison)
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  7. baratron

    baratron Moderator of Elder Scrolls
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    Le bump, as no one seems to have noticed my last post.

    I'm looking for help with my Crobat moveset, as well as a few odds & ends on my other pkmn.

    ~Gentle nature~ (-Def +Sp Def - I chose this particular Golbat out of the many I had because it had the best IVs, and the least bad nature!! The others were all things like Timid and Modest)

    Confuse Ray
    Shadow Ball - GHOST
    Poison Fang - POISON (power 50 + STAB, & it's Toxic-type poison)
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  8. Linkachu

    Linkachu Hero of Pizza
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    Steel-wing could be useful but Aerial Ace will give you STAB and a no-miss attack. Double Teamers beware :twisted:

    Also don't forget that Shadow Ball gives you your Anti-Ghost attack, so Bite would be redundant.

    Looking at Crobat's move pool the only one you'd be able to get a Super Effective hit on from your list is Ground-types with Giga Drain. I'd personally keep Aerial Ace, but Giga Drain could have its uses (even with Crobat's lower Sp. Attack).

    Btw - sorry about missing your last post ^^;
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