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DPPt/HGSS My Diamond/Pearl Team: Please Rate and enjoy!

Discussion in 'The Doctor's Clinic' started by RoboticZebra, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Okay, here is a better team. Hopefully. (These are not action replay pokemon)


    Dragonite, Lv. 81
    Hold Item: Persim Berry
    Ability: Inner Focus
    Outrage
    Flamethrower
    Ice Beam
    Draco Meteor

    Porygon-Z
    , Lv.79
    Ability: Download
    Hold Item: Chople Berry
    Psychic
    Zap Cannon
    Tri Attack
    Protect

    Shadow the Umbreon, Lv. 80
    Hold Item: Dread Plate
    Ability: Synchronize
    Shadow Ball
    Iron Tail
    Moonlight
    Dark Pulse (thanks POH!KEMON)

    Swampert, Lv. 79
    Hold Item: Expert Belt
    Ability: Torrent
    Hammer Arm
    Earthquake
    Endeavor
    Brick Break

    Yanmega Lv. 77
    Hold Item: Insect Plate
    Ability: Speed Boost
    Ancientpower
    Bug Buzz
    Silver Wind
    Endure

    Rampardos Lv. 78
    Hold Item: Muscle Band
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    Zen Headbutt
    Ancientpower
    Head Smash
    Thunderbolt

    Notes:

    Dragonite- I gave him the Persim Berry to snap out of his confusion after using outrage. I may also use Draco Plate and White Herb

    Porygon-Z- It's held item lowers super effective hits against fighting types, while it KOs them with Psychic

    Shadow- Big thanks to POH!KEMON for helping me with his moveset

    Swampert- His Expert Belt boosts his power if the attack is super effective.

    Yanmega- The newest on my team, his Insect Plate will give more opwer to his attacks

    Rampardos- His Muscle band adds a lot of power to Zen Headbutt and Head Smash.


    Well please rate and give advice!
     
  2. Hmmm.....I may help you if you can display the natures of each Pokemon.

    No prob on the Umbreon, Gruffenv1.
     
  3. I'll break it down for you =3 (Will require rebreeding, possibly. >>)

    I have a two umbreon sets, if this is competitive. =3 Also, natures please and Evs as well.

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Neutral Nature (Docile, Quirky, etc.)
    252 Def/252Sp. Def/6 Hp or Atk
    -Payback
    -Curse
    -Toxic
    -Mean look/Confuse Ray

    I've used a similar set before, 'cept it had baton pass. It works really well, actually O_O

    Also:
    Umbreon@Leftovers
    252 Def/252 Sp. Def/6 Hp
    Whatever the +Sp. Def and -Speed nature is. >>
    -Curse
    -Toxic
    -Confuse Ray
    -Mean Look

    Above is a standard umbreon annoyer set for you =3

    May I suggest:
    Dragonite
    Modest Nature
    252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 Hp
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Flamethrower
    -Ice Beam
    -some filler move here

    Overall, your Dragonite is excellent, but Draco Meteor, is just no. >>

    Ditch Zap Cannon for Thunderbolt, as pory-z can't really afford for Zap cannon to miss, as it's a pretty fragile pokemon defense wise. The EV spread should be: 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 Hp

    Swampert's moveset looks wonderful. Give it an adamant nature and an Ev spread of: 252 Atk/252 Hp/6 Def or Sp. Def.

    Can't say much for the others though >>
     
  4. I would actually have to disagree strongly on the Swampert set. No STAB water move? Hell no!

    Swampert@Rindo berry or Expert Belt (if you wish to keep it)
    Adamant
    Torrent
    252 HP/Atk
    -Earthquake
    -Waterfall
    -Avalanche/Roar
    -Hammer Arm/Stealth Rock/Brick Break

    Pretty much a mix of the two standard sets I know of with a Swampert. Double STAB, Avalanche with Hammer Arm goes well with your already slow speed. Roar and Stealth Rock if you wish to annoy the hell out of the other team. Rindo berry to lessen the blow of that first major grass attack.
     
  5. KoL

    KoL FPS Guy
    Staff Member Moderator

    First of all Gruffenv1, I know full well you didn't bother reading the topic I linked to you in your last topic since barely an hour or two after I showed you that link you posted advice that drank urine from a PINGAS fountain. Since reading that topic seems too much for you to handle, here's the basics...

    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Calm
    Synchronize

    - Toxic
    - Mean Look
    - Taunt/Snatch/Dig
    - Rest/Moonlight

    No matter what anyone says, the only attacks Umbreon should ever be using - EVER - are Payback and Dig. All other attacks (that includes Dark Pulse) are a complete waste of space because Umbreon's offensive stats are terrible. Toxic is Umbreon's primary means of dishing out damage, and combined with Mean Look means that there's no escape from its constantly increasing damage. Dig can add on a bit more damage, and protect you from attacks for a turn (avoid Earthquake at all costs!) Taunt/Snatch will fluster attempts at trying to recover HP from the Toxic damage, or statting up to beat down Umbreon that way, and finally a heal move will keep you going whilst the slow and painful demise ticks on for your hapless opponent.

    Pheonix's Swampert set is a great option, although I'd ditch the Rindo Berry since Grass-type attacks are rare, and also the only Grass-type attack that isn't obvious is Grass Knot, and even with Rindo Berry you're still suffering a blow packing 240 Power, and that's without STAB - odds are, you're screwed either way. Rindo Berry isn't worth it compared to berries guarding against more common attack types such as Electric and Ice.

    Rampardos needs to drop Thunderbolt and AncientPower since its Sp.Attack stat is absolute garbage. Earthquake is a must-have thanks to Mold Breaker, and some means of bypassing Rampardos's terrible Speed - be it Choice Scarf or Rock Polish - is crucial.

    Also, Shado, Draco Meteor is not a bad move, in fact it's one of the most deadly moves in the game - ask Salamence and Latios and they'll likely respond by showing you that they can 2HKO every non-Steel Pokemon in the game with the move, except for Blissey, Regice and Shedinja. In Dragonite's case though, he usually has better things to do with his time, like this for example:

    Dragonite @ Yache Berry
    Adamant
    Inner Focus

    - Outrage/Dragon Claw
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Dragon Dance

    A deadly offensive set - more common on Salamence than on Dragonite, but Dragonite can pull this off as well. Dragon Dance gives a boost to Dragonite's amazing Attack stat and more importantly, its mediocre Speed. Outrage is the best option by far for attacking, and the confusion after-effect is a small price to pay when this move can easily decimate half of the opponent's team if used at the right time. Earthquake and Fire Blast give perfect coverage in combination with Outrage, and Fire Blast will slam any physical walls that will try to slow your offense down.

    Those are just a few examples - now, for the love of god, read this topic:

    http://www.pokecharms.com/forums/index.php?topic=3017.0

    ...as it contains a lot of information that will help you. And, you know...actually read it this time...since ignoring it last time got you a warning.
     
  6. Okay. Ive taken all advice in this topic. And Lucario. I read the first couple posts or so., and i FAVORITED the link on my computer. And yes, that advice did drink from a PINGAS fountain. So, I am currently working on rebuilding the team. Here are their Natures. I will raise their stats with Carbos and items like that if I need to.

    Umbreon
    Quiet
    New Moveset:
    Toxic
    Mean Look
    Dig
    Moonlight

    Yanmega
    Sassy
    I'm thinking about replacing Yanmega, his stats are crap, and his moves suck. The alternates I have are:

    Blissey, Lv. 75, Natural Cure, Modest, I need Moveset Ideas though.

    Lucario, Lv. 72, Jolly, Steadfast
    Aura Sphere
    Close Combat
    Dragon Pulse
    Extremespeed
    So... back to the rest of my team.

    Porygon-Z
    Mild
    New Moveset:
    Thunderbolt
    Tri Attack
    Protect
    Psychic (New move perhaps)

    Swampert
    Adamant
    New Moveset:
    Hammer Arm
    Protect
    Earthquake
    Waterfall


    Dragonite/Yache Berry
    Hasty
    New Moveset:
    Dragon Dance
    Fire Blast
    earthquake
    Dragon Claw

    Rampardos
    Hasty
    Earthquake
    Zen Headbutt
    Head Smash
    Rock Polish

    Well, i think I have a couple more kinks, but Ill continue reading that post and head off to own people.





    After that maybe my advice wont suck any more.
     
  7. A possible suggestion for Porygon-Z's fourth move would be Ice Beam. Oh, and Blissey would have to be pretty much entirely defensive since it has horrible attack stats. Softboiled would most likely be a helpful move for recovering HP. Don't forget that Blissey has many options since it can learn 56 TMs and has 8-9 egg moves.
     
  8. Ive added a possible alternate and modified Pory-Zs Moveset Here is alternate:


    Scizor
    Rash
    Agility/Iron Defense (can't decide)
    Iron Head
    X-Scissor
    Night Slash

    Pory-Z
    Psychic
    Ice Beam
    Tri Attack
    Thunderbolt
     

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