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Mafia 1: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

Discussion in 'Mafia Archive' started by Teapot, Jun 14, 2011.

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  1. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Well that's a bit of a morbid way of thinking about it... but that's generally how Sem is anyway :p
     
  2. Sem

    Sem The Last of the Snowmen
    Former Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    May the lynchi- I mean, proving people innocent, begin~

    Well, not really. We still need to decide who to lynch.
     
    #42 Sem, Jun 15, 2011
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  3. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    What Sem says is the truth. We are in no place to assume that anybody is innocent. Six people are dead, and more are bound to come. We need to find out who is behind it, but at this point in time we pretty much have to shoot in the dark and hope we hit something. Which is why everyone is jumping onto anything as reasons to have people killed, nobody knows what to think right now.

    So yeah, it will take some time for us to get a grasp of where people lie in this spectrum. Hopefully not too long, though. Ideally we'd knock the Mafia out right off the bat and avoid as many deaths as possible.
     
  4. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I suppose that's true. I'd just prefer to try to look on the bright side, despite our situation.
    It would be good to knock out the mafia as soon as possible though. Everyone is nervous and tensions are high.
     
  5. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    but thats the problem WHO IS THE MAFIA
     
  6. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Oh. It started.

    I had actually been taking my finals all this week, so yes, I might not be posting so much for saving my hide or whatever it is. My head hurts.

    Anyway, although I am somewhat displeased seeing my name vomited around all day, when we have three to discuss, I may as well say that if you were teapot, who would you put, and where? He might have chosen people to roles obvious, or not so obvious.

    ...I'd just rather not die off so quickly, I suppose. It's sort of depressing, right?

    But if i did have to blame someone, I'd throw the blame on like, the most cunning person here!

    ...And no, Sem, it is not necessarily you. Stop thinking that.

    Although, just by posting to show I am here, I am automatically cast doubt upon! These games are so silly.

    EDIT: Also sniped like three times writing this XD
     
  7. Yoshimitsu

    Former Moderator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I maintain that a full judgement is pretty much impossible right now, since everyone's over-analyzing things. I was kidding when I said Tan was too happy to be mafia and hence had to be mafia. As much as you all jumped on the bandwagon, I think any argument that seems likely is gonna be the one people go for.

    For now, I'm gonna abstain from lynching anyone. We just don't have enough information to make a proper judgement.
     
  8. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    That's something I was wondering. Would we be allowed to not lynch somebody seeing as we have no real leads? I mean, the whole point is to stop the mafia, not to kill ourselves and help them. :x We want to keep as many folks alive as possible and needlessly killing somebody Day 1 is not helping when there are 14 of us. >>

    So if we can abstain, I say we go for that.
     
  9. Mr.RMA

    Mr.RMA Magearna before it was cool

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    You have to understand a little thing called collateral damage. If we kill off someone who wasn't the Mafia, at least the odds of picking one the next round will be higher. If we only allow the Mafia to kill off people this round, then we not only abstain from having any chance of winning the game, but the odds will be lower because there will still be an extra person to place the blame upon.
     
  10. Sem

    Sem The Last of the Snowmen
    Former Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    We can't NOT kill someone. That changes the game completely. We have to kill someone, and they may very well be innocent, but their death will give us something, even if it's just a little bit of info.
     
    #50 Sem, Jun 15, 2011
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  11. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    But if we kill a non-mafia person then the odds after they kill one of us again are worse for us. :x If a few rounds go that way they could even get a numbers advantage and kill us away on both turns. We have no idea how many of them there are. For all we know Data could be cruel and have made like half the members Mafia. D:

    And if we have to kill somebody, kill somebody who doesn't play the game. No point in keeping them around to muddle things up by being a pointless body. That's my choice after abstaining. We have no idea as to who might be mafia, so what's the point in throwing people under the bus? You'll just burn bridges for later rounds if you get accused. :x
     
  12. Sem

    Sem The Last of the Snowmen
    Former Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    There can't be that many mafia. The moment they outnumber us villagers we lose. We can't possibly win once there's more mafia than townsfolk.
     
    #52 Sem, Jun 15, 2011
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  13. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I think the rules are clear... if it's a tie, Petey will just flip a coin. It's unfortunate but I think we're going to have to choose one way or the other.

    El could be back-pedaling. Tan could be covering his butt from fire. RMA seems to want less people regardless. It's... so hard to know who's genuine or not.

    For all we know, Petey chose people at random to be mafia.
     
  14. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    By that, Red, you, erm, mean someone who hasn't posted yet? Which, by my count is Komachi(Indie), Rain, Brendan, Toru, Jerty, and Weeds. That's almost half the number of players, and those like Rain or Brendan aren't the most superbly active of people.

    Both ways, there's still like, 2 more days to lobby around OBJECTION!s, so I think I'm about done, i'm sorta tired now. Nighttime and whatnot, although i'll stick around a bit longer than that.

    just going back to that suggestion on who hasn't posted and blah blah blah
     
  15. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I was thinking the same thing, Sem. If they're a townsperson, that'll be sad, but at least we'll know that much more about the Mafia. And if we're lucky, we'll hit a Mafia member, and the Detective will (hopefully)reveal another.
     
  16. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Yes, the Detective will be key (so let's hope they help us out XP). And very true, Sem. :x

    @Tan: That's why I'm waiting till the end to cast my vote. ;3 (Unless something happens to change my mind by then :p)
     
  17. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I think we should wait and see as well. The next two days could change our perspectives, after all.
     
  18. Mr.RMA

    Mr.RMA Magearna before it was cool

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I'm just hoping that by the end of the round we have some form of consensus. It's obvious we won't all have an agreement in the end, and if we do, we most likely have the wrong choice, but hopefully there will be some majority vote. I'm done for tonight, so I'll get back to the discussion tomorrow.
     
  19. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Well since it seems that Red would kill everyone that doesn´t say anything quickly, I better drop off my presence in this here thread, before he gets any ideas.

    Like everyone else (Edit: Okay, maybe just only everyone on this current page) already said countless times, we don´t have enough evidence to properly accuse someone,
    Unfortunately, the hypocrite is right, although I would love to blame the guy running in my hallways, we don´t have the proof to make such accusations. I wish we had evidence of some sort to speed things up, since anyone of us could be dead by the next day. I just hope the mafia makes a mistake or something to make these decisions easier, I don´t look forward to lynching people in the town, even if they turn out to be mafia afterwards.
     
  20. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Four damn pages already? O.o;

    As most people have stated already, there seems to be too little proof to tell as of now. I'm afraid we're going to have to lynch someone by instinct at this point. Still, I think Sem is a mafioso. He seemed very eager to start blaming Tan... Plus, Sem is, well, Sem. I could imagine him as a mafioso.

    Ò3Ó
     
  21. Teapot

    Teapot Virtual Duck Enthusiast
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    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    You are allowed to not kill anyone. But bear in mind the Mafia might not be so kind.
     
    #61 Teapot, Jun 15, 2011
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  22. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I realize that the Mafia may not be so nice, I mean they have already killed six of our people, but it may take till a night to have some sort of lead as to who is mafia. If the detective or doctor can shed light onto who mafia might be then our lynchings would actually mean something rather than blindly selecting somebody.

    So for today, I select abstaining.
     
  23. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Ah, so many, many possibilities.

    I certainly agree, that at this stage of suspection, lynching is mostly instinctive. While a number of signs point to Sem or Tan, they have little bearing on our suspection. For now anyway.

    So like Red, I'll be abstaining today.

    [Edit]: Bolded >=o
     
  24. Mr.RMA

    Mr.RMA Magearna before it was cool

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Like I said before, Collateral damage.

    Sorry, but the abstaining thing is actually getting me suspicious now

    My vote is currently on Red
     
  25. Sir Red

    Sir Red Charms' Caped Crusader

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Somebody sure seems quick to kill those that want to limit the deaths. I've noticed that everytime somebody brings up trying to save as many lives as possible you say that we need "collateral damage", RMA. I find it interesting that you are so quick to just throw people under the bus on a whim. In all reality, it makes you more suspicious. Obviously the mafia want to eliminate us, and playing the day and night they can kill us off twice as fast. I've got my eye on the one so hung up on killing. ;3

    However, I still stick with abstaining. Besides, El also thinks the same things yet I notice you not throwing him under the bus. Could you both possibly be Mafia and you suspect me of being the detective? Just something for people to think about. ;)
     
  26. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I agree with Red here... RMA does seem suspicious for wanting people to die so readily.
    We don't know enough today to make the right sort of decision. I believe I will be abstaining as well.
     
  27. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Oh, if we can choose not to lynch anybody, that does sound like the best idea. RMA does seem really suspicious, now that you mention it. The detective will have a hard time trying to pick someone to spy on... And the Doctor has to save someone as well. This sure will be interesting :)

    But yeah, if it wasn't clear enough, I'll be abstaining as well.
     
  28. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Bandwagon! Must be jumped upon!

    So yeah, as I was saying in my last post, not enough evidence yet to make a proper accusation. Though it does seem that RMA is running in the hallways... Not yet though, not without the evidence that proves you guilty or saves your hide.
     
  29. Sem

    Sem The Last of the Snowmen
    Former Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Did not realize that we could choose not to lynch someone. As unfun as that may be, it could be the most prudent action we could take right now.

    So yeah, I'll go for not killing someone for today. Tomorrow is a new day~
     
    #69 Sem, Jun 15, 2011
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  30. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I'm also joining the bandwagon and not voting - looks like we'll have to wait and see what happens until tommorow - a death will give us all a potential lead on who to vote for.
     
  31. Teapot

    Teapot Virtual Duck Enthusiast
    Staff Member Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Important note: I have clarified the rules: Mafia night cycles now only last a day to speed things up, the option to abstain has officially been added to the rules, and most importantly, the method of voting has changed: Post in this thread your final choice in bold so I can easily see it.

    ETA: Also making sure everyone got their PMs. I sent so many out yesterday I may have forgotten someone. If you didn't get it, let me know ASAP.
     
  32. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I'm not liking seeing my friends blaming each other. I don't like the idea of not being able to trust anyone that I used to, either. A lot of people are looking suspicious by pointing their fingers, but I don't want to lose anyone innocent. So I'm choosing to abstain as well. Hopefully it will give us the lead we need to keep the innocent alive.
     
    #72 Power Metal Maiden~, Jun 15, 2011
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  33. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    *Slams the desk and points his finger*

    ABSTAINATION
     
  34. Sem

    Sem The Last of the Snowmen
    Former Administrator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Don't let that affect your decisions. None of us are friends in this game.
     
    #74 Sem, Jun 15, 2011
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  35. Dwayna DragonFire

    Dwayna DragonFire 2014 Little Cup Champion

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    ABSTAIN.
     
  36. Yoshimitsu

    Former Moderator

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    I started a trend woooo

    Abstain
     
  37. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Indeed, abstinationicismist.
     
  38. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    Abstain. Nyan~
     
  39. Mr.RMA

    Mr.RMA Magearna before it was cool

    Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    ugh...we're just waiting to die, and not even taking a chance... not liking this plan.

    Still, seems you guys like not taking gambles, and anything I say will just pin the blame on me further and further when we start to get slaughtered, so I'll just follow along

    Abstain...
     
  40. Re: Day One (June 14th-16th): Enter the Lion's Den

    change to abbstainment
     
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