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Doubles Ruleset for the next league - VGC09 or VGC10?

Discussion in 'Organised Play Archive' started by KoL, Mar 6, 2011.

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Which ruleset do you want for the 2011 'Charms League?

  1. VGC09 (No Ubers)

    5 vote(s)
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  2. VGC10 (Ubers)

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  3. VGC09 (No Ubers)

    5 vote(s)
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  4. VGC10 (Ubers)

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  1. KoL

    KoL Expert FPS Player
    Staff Member Moderator

    Alright, since the next league is set to take place around mid-2011 I'd like to make sure no-one forgets about it. That, and you're likely going to need some time to prepare since the old doubles league that ended up being cancelled last time is returning...but with a slight change.

    The clauses active are as follows:

    * Species Clause: No two Pokemon with the same National Pokedex number can be used on one team.

    * Item Clause: All 6 hold items on your team MUST be unique - no duplicate items whatsoever. Soul Dew is banned from use entirely.

    * Fair Play Clause: If a player uses Explosion, Self Destruct, Perish Song or Destiny Bond to cause a draw, the user of the respective move loses.

    Same doubles clauses as ever, but this is where the change lies - you see, while we initially used VGC09's ban list, which looked like this:

    The following Pokemon are banned from use:

    Mewtwo
    ‎Mew
    Lugia
    Ho-oh
    Celebi
    Kyogre
    Groudon
    Rayquaza
    Jirachi
    Deoxys
    Dialga
    Palkia
    Giratina
    Phione
    Manaphy
    Darkrai
    Shaymin
    Arceus


    VGC10 did something a little different, having a restricted list AND a ban list, as shown:

    You can use up to any two of the following on your team:

    Mewtwo
    Ho-Oh
    Lugia
    Groudon
    Kyogre
    Rayquaza
    Dialga
    Palkia
    Giratina


    The following Pokemon are banned from use:

    Mew
    Celebi
    Jirachi
    Deoxys
    Phione
    Manaphy
    Darkrai
    Shaymin
    Arceus


    As you can probably see, this means VGC10 allowed (some) Ubers to compete, whereas VGC09 did not. So, the decision is in your hands - you've seen the two banlists, so the vote is yours - will it be VGC09 (all Ubers are banned) or VGC10 (some Ubers are permitted but restricted) rules for this year's league?
     
    #1 KoL, Mar 6, 2011
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  2. Doctor Oak

    Staff Member Overlord

    VGC10 blotted the London tournament. Would rather not see it happen here too.
     
  3. KoL

    KoL Expert FPS Player
    Staff Member Moderator

    Honestly, I think the London tournament bit the big one for more reasons than just the ruleset. :p
     
  4. Linkachu

    Linkachu Hero of Pizza
    Staff Member Administrator

    It's really hard to get people to comment on stuff these days, eh? :p

    For the record, I voted VGC09 rules here, because I think they work great for Gen IV doubles and the VGC10 rules overcentralize things. As KoL has pointed out in the past, anyone using Kyorge properly can basically destroy everything. Mind you, I'm not competing so it really isn't up to me, but that's my vote.
     
  5. SJ

    SJ

    '09 for the win here; else it will just resort to Kyogre + Palkia and a couple others, like Tyrogue, and some very narrow tactics. 09 had so much more variety, with the exceptions of Gengar and Metagross, but they always show up anyway.
     
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