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  1. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    No, not all RPs are connected - but the presence of Legendaries as part of a story is regulated under our rules, which you should actually read in-depth rather than just skimming.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  2. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Specifically you seem to have not noticed the sentence "Therefore, the presence of Legendary Pokémon here is heavily regulated and must be authorized by one of the PRP moderators - this goes for owning, befriending or even having a wild Legendary appear in a storyline.", or the entire section under "Several final notes on legendaries".
    Mar 21, 2019
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  3. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Remember that RPs do not take place within the setting of the games, and the "Game Protagonists Meet And Defeat All Legendaries As Part Of The Plot/Collectathon" is little more than a game mechanic.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  4. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Ergo the idea that a pair of first-form Pokemon (even if they have unlocked the evolution tree nonsense) running around and defeating (or killing for that matter) ALL OF THE LEGENDARIES, ALL OF THEM, is beyond nonsensical.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  5. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    The most ridiculous part of this all is that this entire backstory fiasco is completely and utterly redundant. It contributes absolutely nothing to the plot which appears to take place over a century after the supposed events of the game.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  6. Major01
    Major01
    It also says, "We'd prefer to keep the involvement of Legendary Pokémon to a minimum, but if you absolutely MUST have them in your plot, here is what to do." Which to me imples that so long as you follow the rules listed after that then it's it's fine.
    Mar 21, 2019
  7. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    What would have stopped PMDverse Pokemon society from going that direction eventually anyway, even without leaning on some oblique reference to how the protagonists of the first game apparently mc-freaking-lost-it and went on a boss rush?
    Mar 21, 2019
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  8. Major01
    Major01
    The morality of limiting DMs of what THEY can do in THIER story aside, this was my way of both removing them an using them to drive a plot. They where powerful, but the ones who removed them in my plot where to have used tactics and finnese instead of brute force. Legendaries are most of the time highly arrogant, and by being immoral they become lazy and decadent over time.
    Mar 21, 2019
  9. Major01
    Major01
    They are highly flawed and that was the entire reason I had them in my plot like that.
    Mar 21, 2019
  10. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Legendaries also don't exactly get involved in the affairs of "lesser" Pokemon unless they absolutely have to. If you wanted them "removed" all you had to do is simply... you know... not involve them.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  11. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    If it was merely a case of 'so there's all sorts of folk tales from 120 years ago about how someone or other took down a bunch of legendaries' but none of these were really supported by any actual evidence and were probably a mish-mash of oral traditions, folk tales and what have you, and this was clarified as part of your setting's mythology, there wouldn't be as much of a problem.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  12. Major01
    Major01
    The protagonists of the first game where pissed off that they followed that code too much is the problem. They had to tell Rayqauza to simply look up to remove the meteor. Ontop of that, they where tired of being treated as lesser, and where fearful that of they had built up thier society, then the legands would have stepped in.
    Mar 21, 2019
  13. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    But your setup presents this as 'historical fact' for the setting, and in a way that may also imply that these past events have long-reaching results that affect shit to this very day and may actually lead into the main plot itself, and that is not exactly something you can run without getting permission first.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  14. Major01
    Major01
    It wasn't going to be irrelevant because it connected with the main plot. How I usually do this is creste the universe and what happened on it first, have some events that happen outside of the players control, and whatever they do can change it, within reason.
    Mar 21, 2019
  15. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Again, why would the legends have stepped in? What possible reason would legendary pokemon have to involve themselves in the development of Pokemon society? Most of them don't really give a shit, and Rayquayquay, even for legendary standards, is kind of a Territorial Giant Green PINGAS in particular.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  16. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    The entire leaning on "So a particular legendary was kind of a bastard because they infringed on its territory and it was ignoring them because it was full of itself, THEREFORE ALL LEGENDARIES MUST BE STRICKEN DOWN EVEN THOUGH outside the realm of the actual game there's no chance in fuck we can do so" is kind of... flimsy, at best.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  17. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Especially when you take into account that Legendaries - barring a few particular pokemon - are not one-off creatures and are definitely not all of one mind.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  18. Major01
    Major01
    First, we have completely different ideas of how legends work. I'm going with what was in the games. Legendaries get KOed in battles, but get right back up moments later.

    Secound, never said they where right for doing so. They precived a dangerous threat, a bomb waiting to go off, and then did something about it.
    Mar 21, 2019
  19. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    ... I'm not exactly sure where exactly you're coming from regarding "different ideas how legends work". I am literally going with how you specifically stated in your thread that not only they sought to hunt down and destroy 'every legendary', but they also seemed to kill them - while here you say that 'oh but they get up immediately after'.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  20. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Well, which is it, then? Hardly solves the problem, just exhausts a whole damn lot of resources which the legendary in Question can later shake off and vaporize the fools with a single breath if they get too uppity.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  21. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Again - point of the matter is. Legendary Pokemon are not all cut from the same cloth. Some of them are very definitely species rather than one offs. Lesser legends may have more common Pokemon that can give them a good run for their money. Greater Legendaries would take armies to wear out, even WITH the use of guile and tactics.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  22. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Most of them want to be left alone. Others would actually fight FOR the little guy. Some are mere observers. And yes, some are utter dicks, but if these guys start running around and trying to off any rare Pokemon that has stories about it, sooner or later even isolationists would take notice and SOMEONE would take them out - even an alliance of convenience.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  23. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    What you've basically set up is a pair of godslayers engaging in impossible feats that honestly contribute nothing and kind of shatter the believability of the entire setting. And if the legends are to later return throughout the plot, or the godslayers somehow survived to this point and becoming a threat, or whatever, that creates a double issue.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  24. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    But honestly, the main issue here is that the involvement of Legendary Pokemon in an RP plot beyond a very minimal degree as outlined by our rules requires that you request approval, detailing specifically everything you intend to do with such, before you post it. This you did not do, thus was your thread locked.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  25. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    And the intended use of these Legendaries here - especially when excessive use of Legendaries implying these two characters have actually encountered far more legendaries than anyone reasonably would in their existence and actually managed to defeat them somehow and actually seemingly wipe them off the map.... is not something that we can abide by to be honest. Not on that scale.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  26. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    You are welcome to use these sort of concepts in a fanfic as those aren't subject to the rules of our RP forum - but otherwise? Yeah.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  27. Major01
    Major01
    I told you why I was thinking it was okay, and that I guess is a fault on my part for misinterpreting the rules. I do have justification for every point you brought up. I don't like having infinitely powerful charactors like legendaries and how this site likes to make them out to be, so I never wrote them to be that way. They had only large amounts of power with control over certian aspacts of nature.
    Mar 21, 2019
  28. Major01
    Major01
    The heroes of the first game where not ever going to be able to kill them through moves or conventional attack. But fine. I don't have to use them, I will have to think of some other important historical event to take it's place.
    Mar 21, 2019
  29. Major01
    Major01
    To put it short, powerful, but not instant vaporizing power. What they do have is some form of regenerative ability, linked to the nature they control. The protagonists usually killed them through removing this link to thier source of power. Normal Pokemon could be killed after being KOed, not them, at least through conventional means.
    Mar 21, 2019
  30. Major01
    Major01
    By them I mean legends, sorry.
    Mar 21, 2019
  31. Major01
    Major01
    Next, why even limit it in the first place? If some people sre going to use legendaries cancerously, fine, people arn't going to enjoy that RP and are gonna leave it.
    Mar 21, 2019
  32. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    Every rule we have, we have for a reason. The reasons may not be apparent to you, a new member - but that does not mean they are not there, nor that they aren't time-tested and that they haven't proven themselves.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  33. Major01
    Major01
    I understand that, so please explain to me why this one is important.
    Mar 21, 2019
  34. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    We've been doing this for 16 years. That's older than a good chunk of our user base. We have seen some shit.

    But at this point it's getting immensely late and I grow weary of 'debates'. So I'm going to have to pull rank and just state outright.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  35. StellarWind Elsydeon
    StellarWind Elsydeon
    These are our rules. This is how we do things here. You're free to follow them - or to take your concepts to one of the many, many other RP communities out there which may be more lenient than we are. That is all.
    Mar 21, 2019
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  36. Major01
    Major01
    If your rules are so important you should have explained why. It seems to me that the reason you have the legendary rules is more personal, you don't like seeing the cancerous RPs where the charactors are super powerful have have a team of 6 legends. Honestly, I get you on that, I have seen that plenty of times before. But to me, freedom of expression is far more important.
    Mar 21, 2019
  37. Major01
    Major01
    Age is irrelevant. The lessons you take from something could be all the wrong ones. 16 years doesn't make you right, it only brings you closer to that.
    Mar 21, 2019
  38. Major01
    Major01
    Anyhow, I get where your coming from, but if you're tired of explaining it, then I suggest you add the reasoning into the rules themselves.
    Mar 21, 2019